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  Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???

  by James Mixon in

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  because there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.

  we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.

  speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.

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  Interesting to find Cold Steel in the discussion here. In the Netherlands I had a few discussions with mormons in the field service, and I was always surprised by their strong beliefs. So different from the catholics or protestants that we met, who actually were not really convinced.

  Later I approached the missionaries on the street, just to know what convinced them they were the true religion. I asked them how they dealt for themselves with the contradictions in the beliefs of their religion (I mentioned a few). The answer was not dealing with the contraditions, but rather explaining how the Holy Spirit had revealed it to them, when they prayed about it. Of course the answer didn't satisfy me. I was a believing JW at the time, but it made me think about my own beliefs.

  Talking to some elders in our congregation I notice a similar reaction. They just ignore the problematic issues in the Bible and the teachings and continue to emphasize other reasons that make sense to them.
  
  
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  Bethelites are Employees

  by berrygerry in

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  bethel seems to have legal fires happening everywhere.

  https://www.newera.com.na/2017/04/28/church-loses-labour-case/.

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  No Bethel in Namibia, so I guess this is about the RTO Regional Translation Office.
  
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  Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. friends

  i just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.

  banned.

  which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..

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  Has the decision of the court already been published on paper?

  Now we know that they were banned for extremism, but at least I would like to know what legal basis they (claim to) have.
  
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  This might be a good week to start a conversation about Jeremiah 29:10

  by George One Time in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at this week clam meeting, jeremiah 29:10 is discussed:.

  jer 29:10—how does this verse demonstrate the accuracy of bible prophecy?

  the mistranslation of this verse is the basis of the idea that the jews spend 70 years in exile in babylon.

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  George One Time

  @Sylvia: No, it's not Miz... Your work sounds quite ambitious. Looking forward to it!
  
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  This might be a good week to start a conversation about Jeremiah 29:10

  by George One Time in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at this week clam meeting, jeremiah 29:10 is discussed:.

  jer 29:10—how does this verse demonstrate the accuracy of bible prophecy?

  the mistranslation of this verse is the basis of the idea that the jews spend 70 years in exile in babylon.

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  George One Time

  At this week CLAM meeting, Jeremiah 29:10 is discussed:

  Jer 29:10—How does this verse demonstrate the accuracy of Bible prophecy? (g 6/12 14 ¶1-2)

  The mistranslation of this verse is the basis of the idea that the jews spend 70 years in exile in Babylon. However, in the original language it reads not "at" Babylon, but "for" Babylon.

  From the Watchtower : http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2011736#h=1:0-151:0
  

  Instead of saying 70 years “at Babylon,” many translations read “for Babylon.” (NIV) Some historians therefore claim that this 70-year period applies to the Babylonian Empire. According to secular chronology, the Babylonians dominated the land of ancient Judah and Jerusalem for some 70 years, from about 609 B.C.E. until 539 B.C.E. when the capital city of Babylon was captured.

  That famous article did not explain why many modern translations do read "for Babylon".
  

  https://www.studylight.org/interlinear-bible/jeremiah/29-10.html

  It means that in case those historians are right about the translation, 607 B.C.E. can be dismissed.
  
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  Growing up JW kid: do you recognize

  by Gorbatchov in

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  born in 1970, 4th generation jw and parents who were loyal to but could also think on their own.. my father always said, the show goes on, so he had a respectable community job, advisor of the city counsel of the town.

  and buying ald building houses for us.

  we were on the move.. what i remember is the many conversations at home about the other witnesses.

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  George One Time

  I wish I could say the same as you Gorby. I was raised without a radio, television or computer at home. All those 'worldly' influences were no good. Started as a regular pioneer at 15, and continued with an intensive theocratic 'career'.

  It took me until I was 38 years old that I realised it was all nonsense, after many strange ideas just didn't add up. However, because all my family is still in, I am still held captive.

  Just managed to stop the fieldservice two months ago, mentioning my concerns about many unexplainable things in the Bible to the elders. Love to see that they have no good answers at all. Will one of them wake up too?

  Still waiting for my wife to see what is going on in the org. She has a similar background as I have.

  What I do recognize is the survival modus. I never liked the forced conversations promoted in the Kingdom Hall, I knew these didn't work anyway.
  
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  the 2013 NWT in Dutch ---- when ??

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we are almost in 2017 and some 3 to 4 years have passed since the release of the 2013 revised nwt.

  also, i am supposed to believe much money has been spent on rto's.

  and as the end is even closer, i should have access to the "best translation ever" in my own language...how else can i be saved???.

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  George One Time

  At the 2nd visit of the headquarter representative this year delegates from Belgium and Surinam will be invited, so I expect the new NWT to be released at that occasion. Actually I heard the wife of a circuit overseer speculate on this.
  
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  Pharaoh tries to kill all male babies - later Moses orders the very same thing!

  by George One Time in

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  2. bible

  so many things that i just discoved about the bible.. .

  so from the book my book of bible stories, we all know how little moses was saved from a cruel pharaoh.

  of course the king of egypt was afraid that those cute little babies would endanger his empire eventually.

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  @Cold Steel

  To judge God or the Bible, one should know every aspect of the arguments one is purporting.

  That used to be my idea too. However, because the Bible is supposed to be inspired by God Almighty, we can expect him to provide us with perfect and complete information. If it is not there, I have to draw my own conclusions. Otherwise I can believe in the Qor'aan or any other holy book. When one finds unlogical ideas, the uncomplete information is always an excuse for the believer.
  
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  How many disfellowshipped ones are there in your cong?

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the congregation that i used to go to, there were a lot of disfellowshipped ones that were once part of the cong.

  also, a lot of witnesses here have family members that are disfellowshipped.

  one family has a daughter that the family has been shunning for decades now.

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  George One Time

  When I was an elder, I remember there was an envelope for every person who was disfellowshipped. About 15 to 20 envelopes existed, some already from years ago.
  
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  Pharaoh tries to kill all male babies - later Moses orders the very same thing!

  by George One Time in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so many things that i just discoved about the bible.. .

  so from the book my book of bible stories, we all know how little moses was saved from a cruel pharaoh.

  of course the king of egypt was afraid that those cute little babies would endanger his empire eventually.

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  So many things that I just discoved about the Bible.

  

  So from the book My book of Bible stories, we all know how little Moses was saved from a cruel Pharaoh. Of course the king of Egypt was afraid that those cute little babies would endanger his empire eventually. He was worshipping pagan gods, so what would you expect?
  

  But since Moses was raised in Pharaoh's house, surely that cruel thinking had an influence on him. Or would Gods holy spirit protect him?
  

  
  

  Now the man Moses was by far the meekest of all the men on the face of the earth. -Num 12:3
  

  Was he really that meek?

  Now you should kill every male among the children and kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man. But you may keep alive all the young girls who have not had sexual relations with a man. Num 31:17,18

  That is what Moses did to the Midianites. Even all the baby boys were to be killed, not the female babies.

  As a witness I read the Bible several times, how could I be so blind?